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Monsters! Monsters! 2nd Edition
Publisher: Trollgodfather Press
by Alex W. [Verified Purchaser]
Date Added: 09/12/2023 13:47:23

My first ever RPG experience was playing Tunnel & Trolls back in the early 80's. I've always had a soft spot for its simplicity, lack of pretension and slight goofyness. It's my "go to" fantasy RPG but although I still have twp different editions from those bygone days, for a current day gamer the game is harder to source; the 40th Anniversary edition made the terrible mistake of betraying T&T's cheap-and-cheerful ethos by being a huge expensive hardback and it's OOP now anyway; second hand copies of any edition on eBay go for stupid money thanks to nerd hoarders so that the only real solution is getting a PDF of the classic 5th edition from DTRPG and getting it printed out.

Until now...

M!M! 2nd edition is basically T&T but with monsters as the PC's instead of the heroes. Perhaps the monsters are the heroes and the heroes are the monsters? How metaphysical! The mechanics of the game are identical to T&T, the spells still have silly names, the approach to gaming is still loose and fun and the layout is both retro styled and easy to read.

Ken St Andre no longer owns the rights to T&T itself. Pease God that Rebellion, the new owners, don't screw it up, but if they do then M!M! remains in Ken's hands to give players the authentic experience of the world's 2nd ever RPG.

Now, if Ken was a true "troll" he'd ready a Monsters! Monsters! Heroic Supplement to release on the same day as Rebellion's version of T&T. Perhaps he could go even further by calling it by the game's original name of Tunnels & Troglodytes, thus retaining "T&T" once more for himself.



Rating:
[5 of 5 Stars!]
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Monsters! Monsters! 2nd Edition
Publisher: Trollgodfather Press
by Harold M. [Verified Purchaser]
Date Added: 08/18/2023 19:32:47

This is a very excellent update to the MM rules. It is presented well and easy to learn. It improves some of the rules from the earlier version. Great work!



Rating:
[5 of 5 Stars!]
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Monsters! Monsters! 2nd Edition
Publisher: Trollgodfather Press
by Michael A. [Featured Reviewer]
Date Added: 05/29/2020 22:36:18

As a long time fan of Vampire: the Masquerade, it always amused me when people said that was the first game to focus on monsters. Monster! Monsters! of course predated it by nearly 15 years.

Another Zanny brainchild of Ken St Andre, Monsters! Monsters! follows that same simple systems as Tunnels and Trolls - a d6 pool and summation mechanic with a xd6 skill mechanic focused primarily on a character's attributes. The rules are fast and easy, and can be learned in about 5 minutes, and the character sheet fits on an index card.

Monsters! Monsters! however, takes the game in totally new directions than T&T. There are dozens of monster kindreds to play as, with their own unique rules and modifiers. Whereas other roleplaying games focus on rules complexity, M!M! tries to make the game interesting with tons of variety to supplement the simple rules. Additionally, M!M! 2nd edition is only 67 pages long, introducing some rules clarifications and additions from Deluxe Tunnels & Trolls without bogging down the game with setting or minutae. If you do want some setting material for the world, you can check out the comparatively massive dT&T.

Finally M!M! 2nd edition finishes off with a basic adventure in a dwarf hold. It's a fun, quick romp with a terrifying adversary at the end.



Rating:
[5 of 5 Stars!]
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Monsters! Monsters! 2nd Edition
Publisher: Trollgodfather Press
by Christopher c. [Verified Purchaser]
Date Added: 05/28/2020 19:08:31

I read thru this new edition of one of my favorite classics in one sitting , thats how good it really is! This edition is written in a very user friendly way , not once did I feel like I was reading a boring a tech manual on dice rolling, it was fun to read , there are very clear and concise rules examples, to clarify the rules. This edition adds innovations , such as "Beast Mode " and the best use of a chaos factor that ive seen in a long time. There are several Kindred descriptions to choose from , and guidance on making your own. It has a Monster Kindred- ized Spell selection , and a very cool and helpful character sheet .A really cool bestiary . The game comes with Figure cut outs , and a GM adventure , with adventure leads for both DT&T and Monsters! characters . the game is complete, aside from dice , its all you need !The Art in this edition is spot on, beautiful fantasy pieces, this is one of the few games ive purchased lately that I can honestly say im 100% happy with. The Troll God and the creative team behind this new edition did an awesome job! For those not aquainted with this game fear not , its written for new hands just as much as its written for old hands !



Rating:
[5 of 5 Stars!]
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Monsters! Monsters! 2nd Edition
Publisher: Trollgodfather Press
by Chet C. [Verified Purchaser]
Date Added: 05/28/2020 09:48:42

There was a time when there was only one RPG that you could buy. Arguably, many of us started playing various "monsters" -- goblins, dwarfs, orcs, half-orcs, a 3/4 orc (Don't ask!), thieves, and evil magicians were normal in my gaming groups.

Then came the second RPG -- i.e. Tunnels & Trolls. A new concept (among several) in RPG was introduced - There were no automatic monsters. Every species (or "race," if you prefer) was a "Kindred" and with the same access to legal protection as humans -- provided they lived and interacted with humans.

Yet the dungeons, tunnels, mine shafts, etc., were the haven of so many truly anti-social types of all kindreds. And it wasn't long before the creator of that second RPG wondered what life looked like to those creatures who hid in the dark and hoarded loot the player characters wanted. Gold, jewels, toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and other valuable hoarded objects meant that mostly-human groups would invade these creatures' homes and steal their stuff. Sometimes they killed you, your family, and your little dog too!

So he gave us rules to portray these monsters, giving some of them the chance to defend themselves. Again, a simple, fast rule system -- Khenn was putting his vocational skills as a librarian to work with heavy (pun?) research.

It was GREAT in its first printing, with that great Liz Danforth cover! It was printed again, when Flying Buffalo (FBI) took it back from Metagaming, and we learned how to THINK like monsters, TALK like monsters, EAT like monsters, and occasionally leading a revenge party out of the caves and down on the human villages!

And now - It's even BETTER! An experienced rolegamer will build a character he or she will love, in less than 4 minutes. A new gamer might take a few minutes longer. The adventures and action are from the viewpoint of dragons, huffalumps, demons, and IRS agents (You can build ANY type of character in these rules!) for the first time again! Indeed, Khenn starts out with "How to Think Like a Monster -- and Why Would You?"

It's better - faster - with paper/cardboard/3d printer miniatures, methods to create any new monsters you might dream (a nightmare, I'm sure) up, a Monster Rating Modifiers chart which just happens to list most of the "official" monsters - including empty ratings for a "No Monster" monster, a great adventure that includes a temple to Gristlegrim (I've been looking for one of those for a long time!), and a fully-stocked city! You'll adventure in this setting for a long time...until you get that urge to create your OWN adventure, your OWN city, your OWN world -- and you can control it all! The power! Such POWER!!! BWAHAHA HAHAHA!!

See? You're thinking like a monster already!



Rating:
[5 of 5 Stars!]
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Monsters! Monsters! 2nd Edition
Publisher: Trollgodfather Press
by A customer [Verified Purchaser]
Date Added: 05/27/2020 22:17:28

A great update to a classic game spun off from (and by the same creator of) Tunnels & Trolls. All new art, improved layout, and clearer updated rules in line with the latest edition of T&T bring this old-school classic into the modern era in real style! A stand alone game that is also compatible with and can be used as an expansion to T&T.



Rating:
[5 of 5 Stars!]
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Monsters! Monsters! 2nd Edition
Publisher: Trollgodfather Press
by MARK G. [Verified Purchaser]
Date Added: 05/27/2020 18:39:52

What a great update to a great game! Monsters! Monsters! was a breakthrough in its time. Before the Reverse Dungeon, it let players play "The Other Side" as all sorts of fun creatures, making the lives of innocent villagers, uptight nobles, and self-important adventurers just as troublesome as they deserve.

Now we have a new updated version, after several decades! It's compatible with Deluxe Tunnels and Trolls, allowing all sorts of material developed for that game to be plug and play with this. plus, this material can all be dropped into dT&T! Add new monsters, more personalized monsters into dT&T, or, play the other side of the dungeon as the gamemaster sends adventurers in to loot your humble underground abode (or decaying castle, haunted wood, fetid swamp, fevered nightmare, or...You name it.)

The art and design are updated as well as the rules, giving a clean modern look to this great game. Magic for the creatures, and spells, are updated as well as powers and abilities.

Take a walk on the wild side, let your hair down, and let the Monsters of the Id run free at your game table!



Rating:
[5 of 5 Stars!]
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Creator Reply:
Thank you for the great review Mark, its great to see so many of you embracing this new edition. I just wanted to add that really this game is compatible with any of the previous editions of T&T and that our goal was to keep it in the same looser spirit of the original version of M!M! It really gratifying to see that many of you "get" what we are trying to do with this. Now you can refer to you favorite edition of T&T and pick and choose what you might want to add or subtract, or come up with your own version of how you might alter aspects of M!M! to suit your needs - Enjoy! Steve C
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Monsters! Monsters! 2nd Edition
Publisher: Trollgodfather Press
by Rich B. [Verified Purchaser]
Date Added: 05/27/2020 16:41:58

This is an excellent 2 edition of the Monsters! Monsters! game that was first published in the 1970s. It has excellent art, new spells, and even a GM adventure to be used with monster players! Recommended!



Rating:
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