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Spheres Apocrypha: Debilitating Talents

Spheres Apocrypha: Debilitating Talents

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Spheres Apocrypha: Debilitating Talents is a series of new talents for the Spheres of Might system for Pathfinder 1st edition that grant you all sorts of new ways to debilitate and weaken your enemies, ensuring you the edge in combat that decides victory or defeat. Overcome your enemies with alchemical diseases, tackle your foes at the end of a charge, and use new types of traps to slowly destroy your enemy's strengths and take them down at your ease. 

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Norman H February 27, 2020 4:24 pm UTC
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Well, i like some of the stuff in this book.

Yet once again i'm forced to wonder if anyone at DDS understands how pathfinder's bleed rules work. Because i think someone there thinks the moment bleed is applied they take damage; even though thats not how it works; bleed is a status ailment, and when its applied does not deal damage, damage does not occur until on the target creature's turn start, and at no other time does bleed deal damage.
Even then there seems to be a bit of confusion on their part between the difference between "bleed damage" and "damage from bleeding", but lets ignore that piece for now.

Just looking at their barbed dart talent, the creature takes bleed damage from the initial effect, then says they can't heal the bleed till the dart is removed as a full round.
The issue is then it specifies as a swift they can remove it, but they take 1d6 bleed damage. Issue being is
1. this doesn't stack with the bleed they did originally with...See more
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Laurence I February 28, 2020 3:41 pm UTC
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According to the author (Hydronz on the DDS Discord), the 1d6 for removing the dart quickly is intended to stack with the initial bleed, and it will probably be rephrased in the future: "...but removing the dart increases the bleed inflicted by this talent by 1d6."

Yeah, they should probably have caught that in the first pass, but that's why it's nice to have direct access to the authors.
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Norman H February 29, 2020 7:51 am UTC
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That makes more sense, honestly based on how some of their other content they've had i've started to think there was a general misunderstanding on how bleed worked within the community.

Haemophilic venom suffers from a similar issue. I won't try to type it out all here because this will become a massive post, but the 1st part's wording is odd (aka the way its worded you could interpret it as affecting the bleed debuff when its applied meaning when the poison ends as long as the bleed is still going the damage increase doesn't disappear) and the crit effect runs into extra stacking/timing issues because it happens at a completely different point than the 1st half and doesn't call out if it increases ongoing bleed, it just uses a generic "additional" to describe it.

And in response to the discord/direct access part; I'll never step near that discord again. Got sick of it being full of individuals who regularly tried to push absolutely unbalanced/broken changes in, or would actively...See more
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Brad W March 01, 2020 11:35 am UTC
Hello! (Author Here, doesn't say on my name yet unfortunately)

I completely understand the issues with some of the wording when it comes to the talents associated with bleed damage (and will be fixed as soon as I can).
I thankfully do understand how bleed damage works, but unfortunately didn't communicate my understanding enough with these examples XD

As much as I doubt I can change your mind, the Discord can be a great source to communicate with authors and get things fixed; I've personally not seen any moderators supporting the kind of behaviour you have seen, and, at least personally, the comments that people make on the various playtest are all taken on board, and all with a pinch of salt.
That said, I appreciate your comments; and hopefully we can see you giving the various playtests that are happening at the moment a look to provide your insights too; authors can miss the simple things as well, we look at thousands upon thousands of words, it can only be human to have...See more
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