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Hunter: The Reckoning 5th Edition Roleplaying Game Core Rulebook

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A Storytelling Game of Desperate Measures

You saw what you shouldn’t have, the veil pulled back from the secret world and the monsters who prowl it. You chronicled the tragedies they wrought, these monsters, and the victims upon whom they preyed. You grasped the extent of their influence and witnessed the corruption of the organizations formed to keep them in check. And you vowed to do something about it. Tonight, you act. It’s time for a Reckoning.

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  • Introduces the Hunters of the World of Darkness for 5th Edition
  • Features chapters on character creation, supernatural threats, and rival organizations
 
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Jonathan B August 12, 2022 5:09 pm UTC
Does this game share the same lore as Vampire the Masquerade? If it is forced lore, then count me as a hard pass.
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Donald H August 13, 2022 12:39 am UTC
Yep. Especially the brand new lore from V5.
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Kai D August 13, 2022 5:39 am UTC
No. This book treats the WOD more like a blank slate. Aside from references to familiar hunter-organizations from the old WOD-lore (like Arcanum or Orpheus, for example) and references to the Second Inquisition, nothing else from V5 is being acknowledged. As far as V5-lore-bits are concerned (Beckoning, Camarilla, Anarchs, Ghouls etc.), none of it is acknowledged or hinted at in any writeup for the vampires as antagonists.

There are no loresheets in this book like in V5 and the book spends a lot of words on describing how all hunter-organizations are untrustworthy and the hunters in it are lesser versions of the kind of hunters the players play (the book calls those lesser hunters "Jobbers" because to them hunting is just a job).
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Tal O August 03, 2022 11:45 pm UTC
$40 for a PDF!?
Looks like the only ones who need to do some Reckoning are Renegade Game Studios - you should Reckon that price again.
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Ken C August 02, 2022 9:35 pm UTC
I want Hunter: The Reckoning. Messengers, imbued. Everything.

They named this game that and didn't deliver. Will not buy and I do not recommend anyone buy.
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Lee M August 09, 2022 6:46 am UTC
I've avoided it right through as I assumed it was the Imbued etc. I only recently learned it wasn't and am now really excited to get this.
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Colin M August 01, 2022 8:34 pm UTC
40 bucks for a <300 pages PDF is utter insanity. If you want people to stop buying your products, good job.
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Johan J August 01, 2022 11:07 am UTC
I read through the four chapter previews, but it's so sandboxy as to drown me in sand. Almost every statement is prefaced with a "might be", "many hunters think", "usually", "may have" or some such weasel word. On the one hand, the writing is incredibly wordy and verbose, while on the other hand not saying very much at all. Imagine sentences like "A hunter may think there are creatures that drink souls, but this might not be the truth." times a hundred.
Additionally, the lore of Hunter the Reckoning is out the window, as are the Creeds. All organized hunter organizations are termed.... orgs. "Orgs might be", "orgs may have", "orgs usually think..". Ugh. I think I read "org" a dozen times so far.
Maybe I'm just getting old, but I'm tired of remakes. Try making something fresh instead! And don't be afraid to be assertive and just write down how it is in your game world!
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Mario B July 30, 2022 9:59 am UTC
As someone who's been following this discussion from a distance, I am highly curious about acquiring this as it feels like it has potential but it requires a bit of GM divination/proverbial hatchet-work to work right. And here is also hoping that the Imbued/Orgs get their own sourcebook for those that want them.

I absolutely cannot defend the price-tag, however.
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July 30, 2022 4:06 pm UTC
There are free pdf files on the Renegade site which beef up the page count indirectly.
My understanding is that they will also add more (as of 2022.07.30).

Other than that... I hope that they pay their writers and artists well.
What I have seen about rpg book "money per word" from other companies is pretty low.
I am willing to pay more as long as writers and artists earn more.
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Ryan O July 30, 2022 2:38 am UTC
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Overall, this book is a refreshing improvement on Hunter: The Reckoning. There's better emphasis on individual characters rather than the muddled metaplot of the old series; and the Hunters are actual people (albeit exceptional ones), as opposed to just being another minor supernatural race. The system is also more flexible, with "powers" being aptitudes instead, and picks up the pace of the game.

Yet another sign that Renegade needs to hurry up and replace all the existing lines with 5th Ed. This is definitely better for players who are new to the genre or brand, even if it (like every new thing) will rub some of the '90s era dinosa..."fans" the wrong way.
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Joshua B July 29, 2022 9:58 pm UTC
Would you look at that! Another Renegade PDF that is extremely overpriced. Nothing out of the ordinary here.

Still not gonna buy it.
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J. R July 29, 2022 6:57 am UTC
The pricing discussion about this PDF makes sense. Almost fourty dollars are a lot of money to spend, especially on what is essentially just a piece of data and so on and so forth.
What baffles me, is the staunch resistance to this book doing something new, telling new stories under the title Hunter: The Reckoning, instead of waiting for a chance to play or leave your concerns about the price point in these comments and not play the game (which is understandable, as stated earlier). But this whole shouting, that this isn't "understanding Hunter: The Reckoning" and this specific game line should concern itself with imbued hunters, I don't get the problem. The older versions of the game still exist. You can buy the PDFs here on this website and start playing immediately. Yes, there aren't new books coming out. So what? Wasn't the root of the World of Darkness, all the way back when Vampire: The Masquerade came out in the early 90s, the ambition to tell very specific stories, touching upon some recurring...See more
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Donald H July 29, 2022 7:57 am UTC
I noticed you said you had not even read the book.


But the issue is not "This is not Hunter the Reckoning" but more of "They are using the name to sell something that is just a poor reflection of another game from another entire world." namely Hunter the Vigil.
Hunter the Vigil is a great game but the point of Hunter the Reckoning, if you actually read the original line, is about people slowly going insane from channeling a supernatural power granted to them by mysterious benefactors. They used the power to take back the night. This game is not that.

It is a bad version of Hunter the Vigil from Chronicles of Darkness. It is barely even Hunters Hunted thanks to the changes they made such as not letting you be a part of an organization.

Also, as noted, the unique abilities you gain from being a Hunter in this game is very VERY difficult to use even if it is, as noted, just getting a single weapon to use for a single scene.

There...See more
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Christopher K July 29, 2022 8:39 am UTC
Before you go and complain about folks complaining about this book, take the time to actually read the complaints and understand why. Especially if you have bought the book and haven't taken the time to even read it. Telling us to go back to another book in the past misses both the point and is an extremely offensive call out not unlike saying, "Go back to where you belong." That's rude. Read it before you criticize what you don't even understand. Buy it and play it if you want to. We won't stop you. But don't look down on our issues just because you don't have any. Those of us who bought it on Renegade's site (such as myself) and read the book through have been very clear about what we know and have read. We are angry and disappointed, and we have the right to be.

One of the biggest points being made is that it is *not* Hunter: the Reckoning. And that is because if the 5th edition line is supposed to be a continuation of the original WoD game lines, then this title is a total bait and switch....See more
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J. R July 29, 2022 8:40 am UTC
Honestly, I did reply to this earlier, but I wanted to correct the tone of said reply, as it was too harsh. Thanks for the bad faith answer though, proving exactly your stance on someone voicing the opinion, that they consider some things said in this conversation rather silly. Never said, you cannot have an opinion on this edition or dislike it. Never said, you should go back anywhere. Simply pointed out, that a new edition does not overwrite the chance to return to older books and a previous status quo in the fictional timeline.
Hunter is doing something else with this edition ... how unheard of in any medium or context. Where is anyone tricking you or others into buying this book or any RPG book for that matter? But I can absolutely disagree with you. It's fine, I see your point, just think it makes no sense and reasons for this stance were given.
And just to make this clear: I read the preview from the Paradox webpage, just pointed out, I cannot critique the mechanics in-depth, because of me not...See more
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Kai D July 29, 2022 9:05 am UTC
I think it's fair to be disappointed by this release when the title gave the impression this would be about the Imbued. But I think the far more damning comparison is V5 actually. V5 is essentially the template for the rules of this game and as Gwen T has already pointed out, by removing Humanity from that template and replacing it with nothing, other things in the template like Chronicle Tenets and Touchstones suddenly get very weird mechanics or in the case of the Tenets no mechanics at all. Convictions from V5 are also not present, for example. A sidebar explicitly discusses why Loresheets were left out. There's no equivalent to the Coterie-splats in V5 in this book. It's all stuff that sure is vampire-specific and therefore wouldn't fit this game but the decision was made to cut these things and replace them with nothing.

The book puts a huge burden on the Storyteller to really even figure out how this game is supposed to work. Gwen T already said that Edge-rolls have a high difficulty. That's...See more
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Ilan E July 29, 2022 2:58 pm UTC
Having looked at the book and given it a quick overview (I bought the physical book for not that much more than the PDF) I personally mostly like what I see. But I also understand why some people are annoyed or at least confused. The challenge here is what the new edition is intended to be. I think with V5 and what we have seen about W5 the philosophy of the new editions seems to be to streamline the rules and setting, reset the metaplot in a way that makes it easier for new players to get into the setting without all the accumulated sorry and lore from 30 years of the game, and to borrow elements from the NwoD/CoD line. Some people seem to just not like that at all but I think if you want a full-on continuation of the original game then WoD20 is for you and not the WoD5 line. The issue here, for what it's worth, is that it's not as clear what this game is an update of. It's not an update of Hunter the Reckoning because it's about mortal hunters and not Imbued as was the original. And it's not really an...See more
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Allison Y July 29, 2022 5:58 am UTC
$40 for a PDF?
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Donald H July 29, 2022 5:21 am UTC
Expensive as hell and also, this game is just like V5. It is a game that is more like the Chronicles of Darkness version than the original version. One that just chucks out what they feel like to make the game closer to what they wanted to get but could not buy.

Sorry. I really do not feel like pumping money into this franchise.

Mind you, Hunter the Reckoning was one of my favorite lines of the World of Darkness but this? This is just Hunter the Vigil that has been beaten and pounded and badly molded to fit into the World of Darkness.

Paradox, please stop doing this.
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Allison Y July 29, 2022 5:56 am UTC
Preach, brother.
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REMI T July 28, 2022 11:10 pm UTC
If you liked the Imbued from the previous edition, don’t buy this game. This is NOT the Reckoning.
It’s « Hunters Hunted » all over again. Not very interesting. There are no monster creation rules, no pre written adventure.
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Jeremy P July 29, 2022 1:53 am UTC
I'd argue it's not even Hunters Hunted. I have no idea who they made this game for.
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Jacob H August 05, 2022 4:31 am UTC
Hunters Hunted 2 provided a wider range of options for different types of hunters than H5 despite having a much smaller page count. Granted, it was mostly focused on vampires. That book allows you to play as normal mortal hunters that know nothing of the supernatural. It also gave options for playing as part of the Society of Leopold, Special Affairs Division and the Arcanum. It also had options to use numina and supernatural relics for those players that like their hunters a bit supernatural. It's only real weakness is that it's not a core book.
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Kai D July 28, 2022 12:22 pm UTC
I've read the preview-version and was very disappointed.

H5 is rules-light (even more so than V5), the metaplot is almost completely ignored (again to an even greater extent than in V5) and the game wants you play street-level Hunters while lambasting every other kind of Hunter to an almost absurd degree. Hundreds upon hundreds of words are spent on how bad and untrustworthy Hunters like the ones working for the Second Inquisition or well-known organizations like Orpheus or Arcanum are.

For that steep price, I don't think I can recommend this book.
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Jay L July 28, 2022 10:34 am UTC
Almost $40 for a PDF, wow makes the PDFs I sell look underpriced, I would feel guilty and not sell anything if I priced my games so high.
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Gwen T July 27, 2022 10:17 pm UTC
TL;DR I don't reccomend buying this book.

I read H5 shortly after it's release, and these are my thoughts.

It's a well organized book, far better than the V5 core book, and filled with some very nice art pieces. However, mechanically it is severely lacking.

The special dice mechanic of this game, Desperation, functions very differently to its corollary in V5, Hunger. Rather than being a part of every pool, they may be added to a pool (which ones are determined by your Creed). However, if a single 1 comes up on one of these dice, you must make a choice: fail no matter how many successes you roll and enter despair, or succeed and increase the Danger (more on this later). If the roll fails and you roll a 1 on a desperation die, you do not get a choice, and are in despair. This has problems mechanically, primarily that the more help these dice could give you, the more likely they are to make things drastically worse for you and your entire team.

Despite not having...See more
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Kai D July 28, 2022 1:16 pm UTC
That's an accurate summation of the state of things in this book.

Particularly illuminating is the sidebar explaining why the authors decided to simply not include Loresheets even though they were a part of V5. And the explanation is "Loresheets could be useful but since Hunter-starting-characters don't know a lot the WOD, we decided to simply not include them in this book.".
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Paul D July 27, 2022 7:59 pm UTC
Wow, that layout and that art direction Suuuuuuck. Does anyone work quality control at Renegade? I'll be passing on this dumpster fire.
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