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Five Torches Deep: Origins

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New methods for fleshing out your character's life and lineage before adventure!

Five Torches Deep: Origins is the fourth official supplement for the best-selling 5e + OSR game, Five Torches Deep. It includes:

  • A dozen flavorful ancestries 
  • A life path generator
  • 22 lineage traits
  • 8 cultural resources 
  • 8 cultural structures 
  • Three new classes 

Written, laid out, and designed by Ben and Jessica Dutter, art by Sam Mameli, and sensitivity editing by Pam "the Dovetailor" Punzalan. The book expands character creation options and improves some of the issues inherent in 5e and similar rpgs (especially the explicit and implicit bioessentialism). The book is 17 pages long and in PDF only (with internal hyperlinks and comprehensive bookmarks).

Works great for Five Torches Deep, 5e, or any six-stat OSR-friendly game. 

 
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Jacob G October 23, 2020 8:06 pm UTC
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As an OSR fan I am really happy with FTD and its supplements. Sigil Stone and the Dutters have put out some really good "Indy" products. I also appreciate Ben's attention to his product and responding in the comments section here.

I will say that I am of the camp that wished the PC Police didn't leave their mark on this product. In the words of dads everywhere "I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed."

I purchased this book knowing it had the Bioessentialism section, and I will use it along with the other FTD supplements but I will simply ignore those ideological bits.
I would like to address those who defend the ideology inserted into the product. One reviewer asked this question:
“Those of you who had an emotional reaction to this page I again ask: Why does THIS elicit your ire? Your annoyance? Perhaps you are simply a reactionary, or maybe you have some deeper seated issues or insecurities that you need to resolve. Regardless, you should seek a proper...See more
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Charles F October 18, 2020 10:07 am UTC
Thank you for pointing out in the description that this game has surrendered to the SJW monsters. I appreciate your saving me the money and time. 5TD was otherwise an interesting rules-light system, and a valiant effort to provide a pathway from 5E to OSR.
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Ben D October 18, 2020 1:07 pm UTC
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No surrendering here. These are our words from our own ideas and experience. We are glad you enjoy FTD and glad you feel as if you didn’t waste any money.
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Vincent H October 11, 2020 3:31 am UTC
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There's a mistake at page 13. "tolkinesque" should be written "tolkienesque". Thanks for the new rules, I was eager to add paragons to my games.
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Vincent H October 11, 2020 3:57 am UTC
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Sorry for that, it posted twice I don't know why.
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Vincent H October 11, 2020 3:31 am UTC
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There's a mistake at page 13. "tolkinesque" should be written "tolkienesque". Thanks for the new rules, I was eager to add paragons to my games.
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joseph A October 10, 2020 8:22 pm UTC
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Since my review was removed by the complaints of a few sensitive souls, I’ll try to distill my thoughts on this product here with some additional caution, as to not offend further.

First off, you will not find a bigger FTD fan than myself. I absolutely love the game. In fact, it leaves other similar efforts miles behind. The simplification of the magic system, the 4 basic classes, and the attempt to instill the OSR philosophy to a population of 5E players is not to be understated. In addition, the innovation with Load, Supply, and Light is a revelation to me as a person who has played TTRPGs since 1979.

Having laid all of that praise, let me get to my point about this specific product.

I really only have a few concerns about this product:

1. Attempting to re-define Ability scores. To say that “INT score doesn’t reflect their overall intellect or capacity for learning; STR doesn’t define how athletic or powerful they are.” Is an about-face to nearly...See more
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Ben D October 10, 2020 8:56 pm UTC
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There’s no intentional silencing here. Any rating and review on DTRPG is kept (you’ll note that you left a rating, 2 stars, which remains when you click “view all ratings.”) Also note that I publicly responded to you and offered you a refund. Our entire comment thread here (posted as a Discussion comment rather than a Review) was flagged and removed as inappropriate.

Your above discussion is perfectly appropriate and you’re of course entitled to your opinion. Thanks for the support and like we said here and on the Kickstarter, we are always happy to offer refunds.
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Allan N October 10, 2020 3:12 am UTC
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Another amazing product that is well worth the $4.50 US. As I stated in my review, your acknowledgment of these issues is something commendable. Anyone who takes such issue with the last page had ample time to read the Kickstarter which very clearly stated Sigil Stone's values and position, and if they disagree so vehemently they can simply ignore the page and still use the amazing resource that this is for one of the best game systems I have seen in my time. I have been playing tabletops for a bit less than a decade now, and have been game mastering for about 3/4ths of that time, and I can say that this system is brilliant and innovative, with each expansion adding more and more ideas and fun rules to play and experiment with. It's compatibility with 5e makes it easily accessible and even applicable in reverse.
Thank you for creating and continuing to create this wonderful system!
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Roger J October 09, 2020 5:09 pm UTC
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I backed this project as well as the original title. Although I'm not in the camp that believe that all previous incarnations of fantasy games were racist because they defined fantasy monsters and non-humans as having defining characteristics, I still believe this was well done. The final page states the stance of the designers. Some might take issue with this, but I don't think it detracted from the overall product. Included here are some great options for fantasy or other campaigns. Whether or not you feel that game books need to be "fixed" to address perceived problems, you will find some cool stuff here regardless.
The art style reminds me of some of favorite JRPG video games such as the Dragon Warrior series, and you could certainly devise some quirky characters along those lines.
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Brian Z October 09, 2020 1:58 am UTC
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Somehow, despite a crystal clear Kickstarter campaign, some Kickstarter backers are offended by this title and the authors' reasoning behind the systems. What did you expect you were going to get? I'm currently processing and enjoying this optional take on race for FTD, and I'm also enjoying the authors personal thoughts expressed in the book on why such systems are needed. Way to go Sigil Stone! Keep on doing what you're doing and ignore the haters.
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Ben D October 09, 2020 2:02 am UTC
PUBLISHER
Thank you!
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October 09, 2020 4:41 am UTC
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I might not understand the motivation of the authors, I might not like the final product or disagree with the way the presented problem is solved. However, the KS campaign was clear all the time about this topic and the nature of the content and I think it is a great piece of designer honesty to explain the motivation the authors had behind it and also applaud Sigil for doing so. This totally different view was the reason I backed it as I wanted to explore something new and a different perspective from how I see RPGs.
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Ruben R October 09, 2020 9:25 am UTC
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Sigil Stone has consistently put out quality RPGs with innovative takes and this is no different. There are several nuggets here that apply well to not only FTD but RPGs in general, especially with the OSR ethos of giving players control over their characters and allowing role-playing while using the crunch to deal with danger.
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