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Chivalry & Sorcery 5th Edition

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For those who Fight and those who Pray, For those who Toil and those who Enchant.


Chivalry & Sorcery the Medieval Role Playing Game 

With all the medieval flavour that was loved of earlier editions now back, this truly is the definitive edition of Chivalry and Sorcery. Players can create well-rounded characters who really feel like they belong to their world. Knights wield secular power and command the battlefield, while other warriors strive to win their spurs in combat and rise to join their ranks. Magick is deep and mysterious, drawing on real-world historical detail, while Priests utter prayers and call upon the very miracles of their gods! You decide the level of magic and fantasy for your game. Run a medieval high fantasy game filled with magic, miracles and myth, - or one of gritty, low fantasy, or even pure historical simulation. The choice is yours! From fairy-tale romance to courtly love, from religious intrigue to brutal, bloody battle, Chivalry
& Sorcery lets you play in just the Middle Ages you want. 

Over 30 vocations to follow

Follow Christianity, Judaism or Islam.

Over 200 Skills

Over 300 Spells and Acts of Faith

The PDF contains extensive internal hyperlinks, from chapter, content and index tabs, to every page number in the contents and index and the consolidated skills and spells lists have each entry hyperlinked.

 
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Scott N January 16, 2020 7:56 pm UTC
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When is the dead tree version being released?
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Steve T January 16, 2020 8:22 pm UTC
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Arrives in our warehouse next week. Retail copies on water to US for distribution. Should be in retailers mid to end March. We will have copies available at the Dudley Bug Ball end Feb in the UK
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Scott N January 16, 2020 8:57 pm UTC
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Well I'm in the USA, so it's gonna be a wait then. Was hoping by February at least, as I have it pre-ordered.

Thanks for reply.
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Steve T January 16, 2020 9:15 pm UTC
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Well if you have pre-ordered you are in luck. Those are being despatched from our warehouse by courier by end January.
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Rafael S December 29, 2019 6:40 pm UTC
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Helle there, i just buy the book and am having a good time reading it and begining to think on how to play with friend to it ^^ thou i was wondering something. How the supplement race will work ? can we use the older thing about the Dwarf and elves ? Also it seem when you download the character sheet they all in protege mod, how do you get rid of that ?
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Steve T December 29, 2019 7:01 pm UTC
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Not sure about character sheet will have a look. The dwarves and elves companions are usable with 5th (they were originally for 4th so not much work needed to use them)
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Rafael S December 29, 2019 7:55 pm UTC
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Alright thanks you for the anwser, it nice to see it's still compatible from an edition to an another ^^. And thanks for looking for the character sheet.
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Andrew S December 30, 2019 8:22 am UTC
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Regarding the Elves and Dwarves Companions, they have high compatibility with 5th Edition.

Andrew Marrignton has reviewed both on his blog, addressing the very question of 5th Edition compatibility. His reviews are worth reading;

Elves: https://www.savevsplayeragency.net/2019/12/28/review-elves-companion-for-chivalry-sorcery/

Dwarves:
https://www.savevsplayeragency.net/2019/12/29/review-dwarves-companion-for-chivalry-sorcery/
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Rafael S December 30, 2019 2:15 pm UTC
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Ah thanks you will read them.
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Rafael S December 31, 2019 6:03 pm UTC
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Hello again, after having rapidly read throgh the book, i was wondering how mass battle was working, maybe i have skip it but i doesn't seem the book cover it.
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Rafael S December 31, 2019 6:16 pm UTC
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also seem there no real rule about ruling a domaine as noble. thou i might have miss them.
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Steve T December 31, 2019 7:01 pm UTC
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Ars Bellica is being completed at the moment and is due to be released to Kickstarter Backers in February (Possibly earlier)
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Rafael S January 01, 2020 12:07 pm UTC
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Ah alright alrigh, so it's in a seperated book ? Okay i see, when will it be released to the greater public ?
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Steve T January 01, 2020 11:10 pm UTC
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Aiming for March.
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Rafael S January 02, 2020 1:20 pm UTC
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Alrigh, thanks for the anwser ^^ will it have the thing about ruling a domain ? or that is up to the player and the GM ?
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Andrew S January 04, 2020 7:56 pm UTC
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Hi Rafael,

Ars Bellica will focus in the military side of things. There will be rules on the war chest, raising troops and hiring mercenaries.

We have plans for a volume with the working title of C&S Medieval Economics (I do want to find a better title The Book of Husbandry?), intended to cover everything from running a peasant farm to a guilded business, a trading venture, a fief, a realm. But this is for further in the future when the Kickstarter commitments are released; we're still very much in the initial planning stages.

I intend for it to have two compatible systems - the light system for people who don't want all the details and the full system for people who do.

As well as creating some usable economic models, I intend the book to contain hooks, or at least guidance for using events as inspiration for roleplay.
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Rafael S January 06, 2020 3:24 pm UTC
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Thanks for the responce, it pretty cool you have all those idea and i hope for you best you manage to get them through ^^. (And for the name, The book of Husbandry could be interesting, however, maybe trying as Ars bellica in latin ? or Book of fiefdom/Book of management thou those might be to specific for ruler and less about the all economie.)
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Andrew S January 08, 2020 2:44 am UTC
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I'm definitely open to suggestions on a name. The reason for The Book of Husbandry is that this is a name used for one medieval estate management treatise - The Book of Husbandry, or Walter of Henley's Book of Husbandry. Other estate management treaties are Senechausie and the Rules of Robert Grosseteste.

It's pretty obscure, though, and I'm not wedded to it.
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Andrew S December 24, 2019 4:40 am UTC
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There is a detailed read review of the game here:

https://www.savevsplayeragency.net/2019/12/23/review-chivalry-sorcery-5th-edition-pdf/
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Eirik B December 22, 2019 7:26 pm UTC
I'm very on the fence about this. It looks great, and I've been looking for a setting set in the historical Middle Ages, but with maybe some hidden fantasy elements.
But I've heard this game has some real complicated rules. What kind of rules system is it? What makes it so complicated? Any examples? :)
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Andrew S December 22, 2019 8:00 pm UTC
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I'm one of the designers.

Early editions were considered complex compared to the other games of the day.

Third edition created a new skill resolution mechanic, but had numerous exceptions.

We've kept the same basic resolution mechanic (percentile, with an additional d10 effect die), and streamlined it a bit further, removing the inconsistencies. It's not a mechanism I'd consider particularly complex.

Where there is some complexity is in character generation. You'll generate you family background, relationships with your family, the omens at your birth, special talents and defects, and some background skills. This is an addition to the usual attributes and vocational skills other systems have.

Personally, I don't mind some complexity in character generation if it helps define the character and if play is simple. Overall, and subjectively, I'd rate C&S character generation as about as complex as making a 5th level Pathfinder or 3.5 character.
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Eirik B December 22, 2019 8:20 pm UTC
Ah, I see. I have no problems with complex character generation systems (in fact, I prefer them like that), but I like systems that are quick to play without loosing any depth. I will give this a look. Thanks. :)
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Raymond W December 19, 2019 9:28 am UTC
This looks like a terrific work, but $30 for a PDF is a bit rich for me. Unless you're paying a flat royalty on each book sold, I bet you would ultimately make more money (and sell many more copies) by lowering the price to $20. But that's entirely your call...I'm just giving you feedback on my own personal sticker shock. Best of luck either way. I'll wait for it to appear in a bundle or on sale.
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Steve T December 19, 2019 11:01 am UTC
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Its actually good value for money at 600 pages when compared to other PDFs especially with all the internal hyperlinks.
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Alexandre L December 19, 2019 12:26 pm UTC
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I was a backer on this project, and so far I must say it has been one of the best in terms of complying with the deadlines. Not without blemish but the work has been outstanding and the the book is massive, with internal (and clever) hyperlinks that helps you navigate the beast.

IF you look at the tag price you might be inclined to think it may be a tad pricey BUT not only is well worth it, the page count and content value is outstanding, and when compared with other products that ask for $20 with not even half the content you really can't complain with what you get.

And the cool thing is they actually care about the product they present and will update the file promptly to correct any issue encountered, as it will happen in a +600 page beast.
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Andrew S December 19, 2019 1:53 pm UTC
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Thanks, Alexandre.

This book has been - and still is - a labour of love in the best way. Our love of the game makes us determined to make this the best edition we can.
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Raymond W December 20, 2019 3:45 am UTC
It really does look fantastic and apparently you've got plenty of happy fans. To be honest, I'm the sort of gamer who actually appreciates a low page counts and simple mechanics, but that's just me. Please don't take any of this as criticism; it is just one person's reaction for you to consider. Mostly, I really want to get it but I just don't have a lot of spare cash in the XMas season.

EDIT: Having hyperlinks within your PDF is a very nice touch. I wish more publishers did that.
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Andrew S December 20, 2019 5:50 am UTC
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No issues whatsoever, Raymond. No game is for everyone.

If you're looking for medieval games with low page counts and simple rules, may I recommend Reedwater, by Anderian Designs - FATE-based mechanics in the 13th century Holy Roman Empire (disclaimer: designer Andy Cowley is also one of the C&S design team).

I'd also bring Sagas of the Icelanders to your attention. They've absolutely no connection to us, but it's a beautiful game, based on the settlement of Iceland using the Apocalypse World Engine. It's very much in keeping with the mood of the original sagas.

Both are available on drivethru.
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Andrew S December 20, 2019 6:09 am UTC
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Also, if $30 is too much right now, wait. We know people are short of cash before Christmas, but we've got it up now because we've had enough people asking if it would be ready in time for Christmas. <br>
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Your best bet for value will be to wait until the hardbacks are out in March and claim your bricks and mortar PDF.

And we have the PDFs for 4th edition (aka Rebirth) on this site for free. There is considerably more in the 5th edition, with many refinements, much more medieval background, and gorgeous layout. But if you want to taste C&S, that's your lowest cost option. ;)
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Nathaniel B December 20, 2019 12:52 pm UTC
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"Its actually good value for money at 600 pages when compared to other PDFs especially with all the internal hyperlinks."

That's only true if you believe that all PDFs are not over priced to begin with.
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Raymond W December 20, 2019 11:55 pm UTC
Thanks for all the feedback. It must be a good game to draw such a good community.
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Guenther H December 24, 2019 7:58 am UTC
And that is only true if you believe that you just pay for printing costs and that writing, editing, layout, and art generally are to be provided for free.

I am not connected to the designers or the project in any way, but I guess that some understanding of the general effort and costs behind the scenes could help to understand the price tag. I guess that just asking the writing staff had helped, too. ;-)
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Nathaniel B December 28, 2019 10:25 pm UTC
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Writing, editing, layout, and art are not provided for free - otherwise books would be a hell of a lot cheaper then they are. But unless I can hold the physical object in my hands I wont pay for it. Digital documents, downloaded movies/music feels to much like renting and not owning a copy.

If a PDF is provided as part of a physical purchase, or if a friend feels like wasting money on one fine (like they foolishly did with this).
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Julian B December 19, 2019 9:15 am UTC
When the Hardback hits the shelves in March, will there be a free Bricks and Mortar PDF offer to go with it?
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Steve T December 19, 2019 11:00 am UTC
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Yes there will, this is an early release in time for Christmas for those who cant wait.
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