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Following in the tradition of SURVIVE THIS!! Zombies! comes SURVIVE THIS!! Dark Places & Demogorgons, a tabletop roleplaying game that uses the Original 1970s Fantasy Roleplaying game rules but mutates it into this retro nightmare. It’s sleek, slender and creepy as Hell.

 

In Dark Places & Demogorgons, you play as high school students during the early 1980s. The town you live in has had a rash of disappearances and strange happenings. The adults seem lost as what to do, the police are as clueless as ever and aren’t helping and Reverend Phillips is on another witch-hunt. It’s up to you and your friends to figure out what’s going on and stop it from happening again! 




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phillip D August 29, 2021 12:37 am UTC
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One of my biggest problems with this and every other OSR type role-playing game, including all the D&D offerings, is the extreme unrealism of the way Attributes [or whatever they call them] are portrayed. with the standard OSR game, they have a purportedly physically fit human being able to run at the fantastic rate of one-half of a mile an hour. I am a fat man and can do better than that, and if I am running, you should be too because something is chasing me. all the attributes are what I call 'game sized.' This means they are not remotely realistic from the perspective of the real world but appear to be good if you only see in from the perspective of the game. this makes upscaling these games for decently powerful supers nearly impossible. you think your hero is super fast only to find out that in the real world, a toddler can run faster than they can, and they are not only not superhuman, and they are less powerful than disabled people are in the real world. I really wish someone would fix this.
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Thomas D November 17, 2021 6:06 am UTC
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Games are not meant to be realistic. They are meant to be fun. If you try to chase down the realism rabbit hole you'll never get there and end up with an overly complicated and NOT FUN game.
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Lawrence P December 05, 2021 9:11 pm UTC
With other OSR games I've played, the character's speed is the dungeon crawl Cautious walking around speed. It is your base speed. I can't speak for this game, but it would be easy to multiply the base speed by different factors for running and sprinting. I've never played a game that I didn't implement some sore of house rules.
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Damian H June 30, 2022 6:49 pm UTC
These games are not realistic simulations. Try GURPS if you want something closer.
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Craig W October 01, 2022 6:23 pm UTC
There needs to be some middle ground though. You can't expect total realism, but you also need to have something that resembles reality to buy into it.

But of course, that's where house rules come in.
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James M July 07, 2021 11:08 pm UTC
Do you always have to play as a teen? Are there adult classes?
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Lee S November 04, 2021 5:47 pm UTC
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David mentioned it in the comments of the Player Options & GM Guide, saying to just ignore the age rules and high school info.

However, I'd also recommend getting an occupation list, preferrably from a Cthulhu type game as kids growing up in Jeffersontown are going to most likely lean more towards that kind of setting as they grow up. The Solo Investigator's Handbook (which I use) or any edition of Call of Cthulhu would work.

After you make your character in DP&D, randomly roll three occupations and choose the one that best fits them and their skills. Then maybe go ahead and give them a +1 to a stat and raise their level to 2 or 3.

This way, all the background info is still relevant, as it was what they experienced in their youth.
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Sergio N September 24, 2020 5:00 pm UTC
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I was looking into it again (been a while since I last played it) and I think I am missing something: what's the damage on the different fighting styles? (brawling, martial arts and wrestling) I can't find where it is stated. Also, looking it up I found that in page 61 there is a note:
"NOTE about STUN DAMAGE: Weapons list below do 1 HP of damage and the target who is then stunned for 1d4 turns..."
I can't seem to figure out to what list the note is referring to since there is none (below, or that applies to the note).
Is it posible that there are some unarmed combat rules and a list of weapons missing from the "DTRPGP_FULL_INTERIOR_WITH_COVERS.pdf" file (The same applies to my printed version)?
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David B September 24, 2020 8:53 pm UTC
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Sergio,

Unarmed damage is a d4+ STR. Its in the other games rules section under unarmed combat, but its not in the core DP&D book. I think we updated it for the other games, but forgot it for the first book. :( You get bonuses with fighting skills but it does not change the damage.

The Note about Stun should say ABOVE (not below). It refers to the Pepperspray item on the weapons table.

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Adam W September 23, 2020 9:45 am UTC
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Hej
Did the softcover still doesn't have title on the spine?
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David B September 23, 2020 1:25 pm UTC
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It's been a long time since I looked at this one, but yes I believe it should the logo on the spine.
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Eugene S August 10, 2020 10:18 am UTC
it's a shame that in this day and age the Heart Throb Persuasion Checks works along a Heterosexual mind frame. +2 for opposite sex and -2 for same sex. I guess the reality of Homosexuality isn't a thing in this world.
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Mark V April 12, 2021 12:50 pm UTC
Your last sentence is an oxymoron "the reality of Homosexuality isn't a thing in this [fantasy] world". Bit of a weird observation in a world where you can be turned to stone by Medusa. In reality, at least 97% of people are heterosexual/attracted to the opposite sex, the other 3% aren't even all homosexual, some are asexual, bisexual etc. The bonus/penalty swing in the game is 4 meaning a teen heart throb can only persuade 20% more of the opposite-sex population. Quite conservative I'd say. A bonus because most of the opposite-sex are attracted, and a penalty because most of the same-sex are jealous/hate the guy. I think it's alright.
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Evan L August 13, 2021 4:58 pm UTC
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Mark, more recent figures are about 5-6% and varies by age group, with some age groups being as high as 9-10%.
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Lawrence P December 05, 2021 9:19 pm UTC
This is just a game and cannot possibly have a rule for every single situation. If a man wrote these rules, he would probably fall short in describing child birth. It's not the author's fault for not being able to identify with any sexual preference other than his/her/its/them/etc own. I have never found an rpg that I was 100% satisfied with. Instead of being angry or annoyed at the author, I create a house rule - thereby making the game my own.
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Marygold A July 06, 2022 10:34 pm UTC
Ah, well then. That just saved me some money. Unsurprising given the sorts the OSR tends to attract but still disappointing. Thank you mysterious Mister Eugene from two years ago.
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Eugene S July 16, 2022 7:32 pm UTC
You're exhausting.
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Iriah W July 10, 2020 6:12 pm UTC
I heard this was getting a Revised edition. Any idea when that's going to be available? Thanks.
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Iriah W June 11, 2020 3:52 pm UTC
Does Strength bonus add to melee damage because I can't find anywhere that says it does, I can only find where it says it adds to attack rolls. If it does add to melee damage could someone please hit me back with the page number. Thanks.
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David B June 11, 2020 6:11 pm UTC
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See page 58, under Attack Bonus
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Iriah W June 12, 2020 1:12 am UTC
Right, I read that. It only says that attribute bonuses add to the d20 roll for attacks. So does a Str Bonus add to Melee damage?
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David B June 12, 2020 12:48 pm UTC
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Yes str bonus does add to damage. :)
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Iriah W June 12, 2020 10:31 pm UTC
Cool, thank you. I hate to be a bother but does Dex bonus add to ranged damage like it does in 5E D&D? I just want to be thorough. Thanks.
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David B June 13, 2020 3:50 pm UTC
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No bother at all. Yes Dex does too.
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David R January 24, 2020 7:55 am UTC
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Just got the POD version, which looks great and just feels great to have a hard copy in hand to read, but I have to add the very bizarre addition of about 50-some odd pages at the beginning of the book being a printing for an entirely different book about stencil drum kits. The entire Dark Places & Demogorgons book is there, but there’s just this randomly odd additional (and quite possibly accidental) printing ahead of it.
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Thomas D January 03, 2021 5:13 am UTC
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Sometimes the printer messes up, I'd let them know and have them send a corrected copy.
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Brad J October 21, 2019 2:12 pm UTC
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I didn't see cover images for the book in the files I received. Even the file "DTRPGP_FULL_INTERIOR_WITH_COVERS.pdf" didn't seem to include the covers. Did I miss something?
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David B October 21, 2019 2:59 pm UTC
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Wow! I'm not sure what happened there. I'll update the file when I get home from work tonight. Thank you for bringing this to my attention!
Eric
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David B October 22, 2019 12:30 am UTC
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Brad,

The cover and back cover are at the end of the "DTRPGP_FULL_IN...." I just remembered that they were put there back to back for easy printing. :)
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Brad J October 22, 2019 4:29 pm UTC
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Ah, found it, thanks.
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Jonas M August 26, 2019 7:52 am UTC
There is any policy for people create and sell stuff for this game? Is it a game open to the community?
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Lin L January 04, 2019 7:52 am UTC
Even though I loved "It", "The Goonies" and "Stand By Me" as a kid, I still got to ask this (admittedly pointed) question.

Does this game take you back to a "better" 1980's where Asian Kids (and Black/Mexican/Non White Kids) have as much a chance to shine, be heroic, and take Center Stage as the White Kids?

Or is it a more "brutally honest" and true to Horror-Genre-Racism 1980's where Asians and Blacks are relegated through bullying and mis-representation, onscreen and offscreen, to the roles of silent sexless-nerds (like the sickeningly racist caricature Long Duk-Dong), inconsequential stereotyped-jokes, or the first to die at the monster's claws? (It would be a MUCH shorter list of 1980s Horror Films where Non-Whites actually SURVIVE to the End)

I apologize for being confrontational: An *entire* boyhood and adoslesence of "ch!ng-ch@ng Chinaman Go Home" in Australia makes you grow up being *bitterly* resigned to...See more
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David B January 04, 2019 2:24 pm UTC
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Hi Li,

Great Question! We tried to be very diligent, not to focus on race at all or even mention it. The race presented in DP&D is an assumed "human", that's it. No more, no less. We did this intentionally to make the game more enjoyable for all players.

With that being said, this game was written by two white guys. So our sensitivity level, may not be as high as someone who has the unjust actual life experiences such as you have in Australia (and I'm very sorry that you've had to endure that).

What I can do, is offer you a complimentary PDF. All I need is your drivethrurpg email address, and allowing you to make that decision for yourself. And I ask that if you find offensive content in our game that you please tell us about it so we can make sure not to make that mistake again.

Thanks,
Eric Bloat
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Lin L January 04, 2019 4:57 pm UTC
Dear David B.
I have contacted you via Your Publisher Website, as there is no button in your post to privately message you.
Thank You, Sincerely, for your fast (and kind :) ) reply.
Happy New Year! :)
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Jared D December 01, 2018 7:38 pm UTC
How long are these sale prices going to last?
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David B December 02, 2018 4:15 am UTC
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Hi Jared! These sale prices should be good through the month of Dec or until January 1st may be a better way to think about it.
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Lucas S December 01, 2018 3:03 am UTC
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Awesome Game!
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David B December 02, 2018 4:23 am UTC
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Thank you Lucas! Glad you like it :)
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Jeff J November 24, 2018 8:18 am UTC
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I love the concept and it has been nice to read the books.

I do have a question. The teens are described as not being particularly combat trained. (i.e. they shouldn't fight the monsters if they can help it.) Which makes me wonder how some of the adventures are supposed to end. Do they just get help? A scenario with possible way the players may resolve it would be nice.
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David B December 02, 2018 4:21 am UTC
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Jeff, Thanks for kind words!

What we mean is the kids are necessarily supposed to go head to head with the monsters. Let's say the adventure involves a Chupacabra. Instead trying to fight the Chupacabra, the kids could lure it to an abandon house and once the monster is in the house, lock it inside and burn the house down. Or let's say their having runs in with the lake monster, maybe they don't need to fight the monster at all. Maybe they just need to photograph it and give the "proof" to the authorities to take care of. Or how about a ghost that's haunting the graveyard and scaring the kids. Maybe they can find out who the ghost is and find out that someone has dug up his bones and all they have to do re-bury the ghost and the problem goes away. Things like that.

I hope this helps! :)
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William M November 16, 2018 6:39 pm UTC
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Just purchased the core book, came with three copies of the pdf, but none had a cover, even though one says with cover. Any chance that file can be fixed?
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David B November 16, 2018 10:49 pm UTC
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Hey Mike, the Covers along with a full size character sheet is added to the end (last 3 pages) of that file. If you scroll far enough you'll see it. We did that so for those doing 2-sided printing, it throw off the 2 page layout.

I hope that helps. And thank you sooo much for picking up our game!

Eric B.
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Jay S June 27, 2018 1:09 am UTC
Hi, I'm considering a purchase of the PDF plus printed book, but wanted to check and see if errata had been cleaned up and corrected in the current file? Thanks!
-Jay
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David B June 27, 2018 1:25 am UTC
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Hi Jay! Print copy is the final with all the errata cleaned up. With the PDF you'll find 3 version, one being the "Final" the others being previous iterations of the game, with so rules differences. These previous versions are included by request of early game playtesters who wanted to continue with the original rules set....warts and all. lol. I hope this helps to answer your question.
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Jay S June 28, 2018 1:44 am UTC
Yes, thanks!
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