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The Veil: Cyberpunk Roleplaying Powered by the Apocalypse

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The room flickers in front of you for an instant like a PMP losing reception. You hear the hammer snap back on a cheap poly and you can almost smell the ozone as the bullet glides out of the chamber. The window flies apart in shatterproof shards the size of disembodied limbs. Your neurochip feeds you the trajectory of the unequivocal sentence of death speeding your way as your eyes swivel in their machined sockets. Juice crashes through your veins. You've only got a split second to make a move. What do you do?

The Veil is a collaborative storytelling game Powered by the Apocalypse designed to tell cyberpunk stories of your own making. Use world building tools to come up with unique settings that look and feel like the cyberpunk you and your friends have always wanted. Put questions that drive your characters at the heart of heists, mysteries, and conspiracies. Break a near future world and then try to put it back together. Play to find out what happens.

 
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Nathan L March 17, 2020 11:51 am UTC
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Where can I get a printed copy?
I can't see it anywhere, I'm in Australia if that matters.
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Fraser S March 17, 2020 9:57 pm UTC
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Indie Press Revolution stocks it and is a distributor as well. Normally we would have copies over at the samjokopublushing.com website, but we are relocating stock to a new fulfillment service. But any local shop should be able to order retail copies via IPR. I know that 401games.ca also has some copies, but I am not sure how their international shipping is.
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Corry D February 09, 2020 4:18 am UTC
is it possible to get a printed version of this, and its expansion? my google-fu is apparently lacking in strength. it was lacking. i found a print-source. IPR.
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Fraser S February 09, 2020 5:13 pm UTC
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Absolutely. Normally we have stock over at our website: samjokopublishing.com but we are currently shipping most of our items to a different facility. However, if you're in the U.S Corry, indiepressrevolution.com carries all Samjoko Publishing books and has cheaper shipping. If you're outside of the U.S the shipping can be pricey.
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Corry D February 14, 2020 7:03 pm UTC
Thanks Fraser. In researching the game i ended up coming across your guest appearance in a one shot.... First time i really saw cyberpunk-ish material used for real comedy. hopefully both you had fun, and kip got all the D they needed. :P
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Fraser S February 15, 2020 5:55 pm UTC
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I'm pretty sure I've never laughed that hard in my life. It was a lot of fun and I enjoyed it a lot!
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Panu L December 15, 2019 10:58 pm UTC
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Just curious about why there is no Hardcover version of the Veil available? As a book of nearly 400 pages a paperback seems a bit risky as opposed to an offprint Hardcover.
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Fraser S December 15, 2019 11:26 pm UTC
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As an indie outfit, we like to keep our price point as affordable as possible. Our shipping partner is one guy operating out of a hobby shop in Korea. It costs about $15 to ship the softcover book out. Hardcover shipping would be substantially more because you need different packing materials and it would increase the weight of the parcel. Be quite the price jump when coupled with the increased unit cost of printing the hardcover as well. At the time of publication it was the best option for us.
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Panu L December 16, 2019 4:44 am UTC
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Ok, makes sense. If I may ask how well does the book hold up to use. Like said I am a bit worried about the glue holding up on a paperback of that size.

Edit: You havent thought about a PoD option here? Softback and a hardback option could both be put out then with the buyer having an option to choose. Though PoDs still have the glue issue so if your offprint has better glue then I perfectly get that you choose to steer away from PoD.
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Fraser S December 16, 2019 6:42 pm UTC
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My copy hasn't had any problems. I haven't heard from anyone else about a problem. It's a good quality offset print run. It looks like we could do softcover PoD but I think it would be wildly expensive at full-color and 400 pages. We might do it when all our offset run is done, but I think it would not appeal to people at the price point. Uncanny Echo is 200 pages and was pretty expensive, but still competitively priced with other stuff, just barely. DrivethruRPG doesn't have a hardcover option for graphic-novel sized products, so that's why it isn't available. But I doubt it would appeal for price point reasons as well.
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Panu L December 16, 2019 7:52 pm UTC
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Ok. Thank you for the clarifications! I will likely get the softcover then at some point. Have to wait after chirstmas though.

Again many thanks for answering my questions so throughoutly.
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Fraser S December 16, 2019 8:30 pm UTC
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No problem at all!
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Aaron H August 01, 2019 9:44 pm UTC
Just curious, came across a footnote on Wikipedia about a 'PbtA' similar game on Kick-starter, but from New Zealand and called 'The Sprawl'. Huh? What's up about that?
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Fraser S August 01, 2019 10:27 pm UTC
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The Sprawl can be found here: https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/171286/The-Sprawl----MIDNIGHT?term=the+sprawl

It's a very different game. The game is also PbtA but is structured for characters running missions that effect different monolithic corporations you create at the start of play as a group.
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Brett M April 19, 2019 5:42 am UTC
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Has the 2nd print run already begun? If so, could someone please send me a link? Copies of The Veil are being sold on Samjoko but I can't tell if they're the updated 2nd run or not
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Fraser S April 19, 2019 5:17 pm UTC
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Hi Brett! There is only the 2nd printing available for purchase (that I'm aware of, anyway). It's easy to tell the difference: the 2nd printing version has the above cover, whereas the first one had a different one. 2nd printing has been in circulation for over a year. You can nab the 2nd print run from Indie Press Revolution if you're in the U.S, or our website (samjokopublishing.com) if you're international.
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Michał J August 21, 2018 4:21 pm UTC
Is there a physical book available or is it strictly pdf only?
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Marcus G August 22, 2018 2:56 pm UTC
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From Fraser S. on an earlier post: There is a print version available through Indie Press Revolution and out own website: www.samjokopublishing.com
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Michał J August 22, 2018 3:28 pm UTC
I have looked at the page, but I only see an option for the pdf there.
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Fraser S December 01, 2018 11:04 pm UTC
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It should have been available through there without interruption since it's publication. Here's the product page: https://www.indiepressrevolution.com/xcart/The-Veil-2nd-printing-Print-PDF.html
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Steven B July 25, 2018 12:51 am UTC
What does "Powered by the Apocalypse" mean?
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Zach Y July 27, 2018 10:52 pm UTC
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PbtA means the mechanics are inspired by Apocalypse World, ie 2d6 with failure, partial success, and success being the possible outcomes for any given roll. That includes things like Dungeon World, Monster of the Week, Monsterhearts, etc.
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Steven B July 27, 2018 11:24 pm UTC
Thanks Zach!
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Craig B July 02, 2018 12:04 pm UTC
This sounds so good and has good reviews, actually great reviews. Why is it so reasonably priced for 392 pages? It appears to be worth 20.
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Fraser S December 01, 2018 11:06 pm UTC
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We probably could have priced it at $20 but at the time most games weren't that pricey a few years ago.
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Alan B June 18, 2018 3:50 am UTC
Any chance of POD?
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Fraser S July 12, 2018 4:33 pm UTC
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We can't do a POD actually, we would make a hardcover option but Drivethru doesn't support the dimensions of this book (graphic-novel sized) and the softcover is available through Indie Press Revolution and our website already.
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John M May 26, 2018 1:03 am UTC
Is there a print version?
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Fraser S July 12, 2018 4:32 pm UTC
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Hi! There is a print version available through Indie Press Revolution and out own website: www.samjokopublishing.com
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Jeff M March 21, 2018 9:37 pm UTC
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Hello
A friend shared some stuffs about this game (really gorgeous illustrations and the playbooks), i m definetly willing to purchase it for april (witht the Cascade expension).
But i have question, is there a specific background or is it more or less generic but still in a transhumanism stuff ?
thanks for your answer.
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Kyle S March 28, 2018 3:42 pm UTC
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Hello,

There’s a playbook that you and the table fills out together for the world to facilitate world creation. The playbooks you choose also add certain elements into the story. The only thing that’s really set up is the augmented virtual world, The Veil, that sits atop reality. Cascade is full of unique settings for groups that would rather dive into something that is already set up for them.
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Jeff M March 28, 2018 3:46 pm UTC
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Thank you very much.
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Matthew G March 06, 2018 10:24 pm UTC
I'd really like to see a table of contents before I decide to buy.
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Stacie W December 28, 2017 9:49 am UTC
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With as many changes as there are will the second printing version get a PoD version so we can buy it for print?
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Fraser S December 28, 2017 7:35 pm UTC
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Hey Stacie! We are figuring that out now, actually. We are doing another print run for soft cover. But a number of people have said they only want a POD version and only want hardcover. We might have a hardcover just on here. The better option will always be the off-set print run and not print-on-demand, though. But for those people who want POD only, at least that would accommodate them. We did a hardcover print run of Worlds In Peril and so many copies were damaged in shipping, it wasn't really worth it.

We may have this second printing at IPR and our own site, http://samjoko.storenvy.com/
Then have hardcover POD here for people who want that. We are still working out the particulars, though.

For those people who want the cheaper and off-set print run we might make a slip case or something. Still thinking about it.
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Stacie W December 31, 2017 8:55 pm UTC
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That sounds cool. I have the current softback but with all these changes, which seem to be rather extensive, and knowing myself, I'd be open to getting a second printing copy somehow in print. Hardback premium option here would be an instant buy. :)
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Fraser S December 31, 2017 9:23 pm UTC
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Well, we for sure will be printing it in softcover as an off-set run.

It seems like enough people Only buy PoD on here to warrant a hardcover here since we wouldn't be responsible for the shipping of hardcovers, they would be. It would just also be really expensive. Space Wurm Vs Moonicorn, for example, is not graphic novel size and is 400 pages full colour. So it might be around the price point--if we were to go that route.
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Fraser S January 01, 2018 1:58 am UTC
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Looks like DrivethruRPG only supports the format of this book in softcover currently. If they ever change that so hardcover is also supported I'll add it. As is, no point. We are doing an off-set print run in softcover already. When that's printed I will make sure to insert a note and place a link to it in the product description.
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Kevin F January 01, 2018 2:35 am UTC
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Maybe Lulu? for POD HC.
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Fraser S January 09, 2018 5:50 pm UTC
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Lulu doesn't do the format in hardcover either, looks like. But IPR will have physical copies and our own store will also have stock and ship to folks outside of the U.S. https://www.samjokopublishing.com/shop-samjoko/
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Tim L October 17, 2017 4:12 pm UTC
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Just out of curiosity, what caused you to change all references of 'giri' to 'obligation' in the latest updates?
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Edward C October 21, 2017 9:53 pm UTC
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I'm not affiliated with Samjoko (just doing research and deciding if I want to buy the Veil or not), but I noticed they have a post about it on the G+ page, here: https://plus.google.com/communities/111282641132726730775. Short version appears to be they removed it in response to accusations of "cultural appropriation."
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Tim L October 22, 2017 9:23 am UTC
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Thanks for that! Not partaking in social media such as G+ makes it hard to stay up to date on such things sometimes. Reading through that I understand why they did what they did, though actually knowing Japanese I feel that 'obligation' does not really accurately capture the whole underlying concept of 'giri'. I don't think there actually is a good encompassing translation in English for the term, but I don't begrudge them being rather safe than sorry on touchy subjects like cultural appropriation.
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Talison C June 28, 2017 5:18 pm UTC
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How do I contact Samjoko for the playbooks/basic moves sheets??? I can't find an email or anything and this book has been sitting on my shelf since I picked it up at convention
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Dana L July 12, 2017 12:43 am UTC
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I was able to contact them for this through the contact form at http://samjoko.storenvy.com/
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Alex F May 24, 2017 6:03 am UTC
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The most recent version of the rules appear to not have their outline/table of contents not hotlinked properly. Hopefully this gets fixed soon?
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Dani J July 09, 2017 12:46 pm UTC
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Yup second this comment. Those bookmarks in recent update takes you to the front cover of the book only.
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Fraser S July 12, 2017 10:44 pm UTC
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Not sure how the PDF got broken but we manually added the bookmarks back. Also updated the files for an upcoming second printing.
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