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         There is a war going on every day, a war of ideologies. Its soldiers don’t march in lines or report to a large pentagonal building. It is a shadow war where information and bullets hold equal weight, cutting-edge technology changes the nature of crime and espionage, and enemies don’t always wear uniforms.

         This game is about clandestine Special Forces parachuting behind enemy lines to carry out missions that no government will claim ever happened. It is about special agents receiving their missions from men and women whose identities won’t turn up on any database. It is about mercenaries and spies. It is about secrets, seduction, stealth, deception, assassination, bribery, infiltration, action, and adventure. But here’s the rub; you don’t see the war happening. The dark and dangerous things that men and women do to protect their countrymen go unsung, the truth concealed by the government and media with little white lies to keep you going to work and buying things in malls… to keep you sane.

         Welcome to White Lies™, a modern role-playing game of espionage and paramilitary action adventure. This game makes use of a light and simple set of familiar-feeling mechanics designed to be fast and loose, empowering the Admin to be an arbitrator of rulings rather than an encyclopedia of rules. It plays at the table like the cinematic espionage genre this game attempts to embrace. Tell your own thrilling tales of modern spy adventure!

         This product is not affiliated with Covert Ops, our d00lite espionage RPG, though it captures much of the same feel and has some of the researched and developed content repeated or adapted from that product.


         This is the 2nd edition of the White Lies roleplaying game, and is no longer based on the S&W WB license. It is fully divorced from the OGL and SRD and is now its own system published under CC-BY-SA (meaning YOU can publish stuff for it yourself!). Despite this, it has a familiar mechanical feel of old school gaming. Since we don't charge for the game, we took the opportunity to make use of A.I. procedural art in the entire book, which gives it a neat and different look and feel. Finally, we took this opportunity to fold several of the previously-published supplements into the core game book, which resulted in some additional page count. But don't be intimidated. At its core it's the same game wrapped in slightly different mechanics and painted in a new shinier form.


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neil T March 14, 2023 4:32 am UTC
pod
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William L March 14, 2023 8:41 pm UTC
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I placed an order for the proofs... just waitin' now!
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neil T March 15, 2023 6:48 am UTC
Will this be on lulu
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neil T March 15, 2023 6:50 am UTC
Will this be on lulu
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William L March 19, 2023 12:10 am UTC
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Nope, for now it'll only be available here. I just received my proof and am happy with it. I am not marking it up so the cost is just whatever lightningsource is charging me for it. The physical 6x9 book looks fantastic, I'm really very pleased with it.
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Ryan Graham T March 12, 2023 11:42 am UTC
It don’t download for me for some reason
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William L March 12, 2023 3:23 pm UTC
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Has this been resolved? If not send me an email to wlogan[at]dwdstudios[dot]com and I'll figure out another way to send it to ya.
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Charles F March 04, 2023 9:17 pm UTC
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I thought I was getting the ruleset but ended up with character sheets and counters. Did something change?
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William L March 05, 2023 12:08 am UTC
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wth - I know I uploaded it. I'll double-check - standby!
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William L March 05, 2023 12:11 am UTC
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I don't understand why it disappeared my pdf but I re-added it. If you still can't get it, please hit me up at wlogan[at]dwdstudios[dot]com and I'll provide you a copy!
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Charles F March 06, 2023 12:58 am UTC
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Okay thanks. Whatever you did worked. Great system!
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Greg F February 18, 2023 4:07 pm UTC
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William L - if you provide a POD option for the 2e rules I will buy it.
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William L February 18, 2023 4:19 pm UTC
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I totally plan to! First I'm trying to get feedback on grammar/punctuation/spelling/clarification requirements/etc. Because editing costs money and I'd never recover those costs with a free product, and it's unfair to folks who buy a physical copy to not have something with editing done. So please, help go through the book and provide any feedback! I self-edited, but that rarely works well.
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Greg F February 21, 2023 2:04 pm UTC
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That is good news! And please take your time to get errata and corrections. Right now I do not have a gaming group, but if I spot anything during a read-through I will mention it.
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Timothy M February 17, 2023 3:51 pm UTC
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Will the previous version no longer be available?
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William L February 17, 2023 4:34 pm UTC
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That's correct. It's a clean break from the OGL/SRD/S&W licenses after WotC's OGL fiasco
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Timothy M February 17, 2023 4:52 pm UTC
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Well, I can understand wanting to go in a different direction going forward, but why can't the original version still be downloaded for those of us who like it? I have backups, so I'm okay for now, but I guess I don't understand why the first version can't still be available too and why the change is being forced on us.
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William L February 17, 2023 5:24 pm UTC
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I'm sorry Timothy - I honestly didn't think this would be an issue. I didn't even consider the possibility that some people would still want the original instead of the new version. Feel free to share your original with whomever needs a copy, but my plan was to move forward with a clean break from the dressings of the previous license.
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Timothy M February 17, 2023 8:27 pm UTC
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I appreciate your taking the time to respond. FWIW, I think the new version looks interesting, and will probably give it a spin at some point.
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William L February 17, 2023 1:23 pm UTC
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FYI Due to feedback, I'm adding an option to generate abilities with a fixed array (-1, +0, +1, +2, +3). Some folks don't trust their dice I guess? I'm waiting to update the PDF here on this site until I get more feedback, though. So keep it coming in! Private messages on twitter, discord, mewe, or email me at wlogan[at]dwdstudios[dot]com!
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Robert B February 16, 2023 2:31 pm UTC
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I just purchased the POD of the 1st Ed two weeks ago, it has not even shipped to me, and now there is a 2nd edition...
Good job on splitting away from the OGL and SRD though.
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William L February 16, 2023 2:41 pm UTC
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Right before I set up the 2nd edition I told my wife "watch, someone will have JUST purchased the POD and will be pissed" I'm sorry Robert! There isn't a *GOOD* time to put out your 2nd edition, but everyone always asks you when you're going to do it. :-| I wish there was something I could do for you but I make no money off the POD either, so can't even offer you a discount
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Robert B February 16, 2023 2:49 pm UTC
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I am not upset at all, I just find it comical that it happened to me. I am looking forward to going through the pdf of this 2nd edition though.
Thanks for the quick reply.
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William L February 16, 2023 2:24 pm UTC
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Hi everyone! I separated this product from the OGL and SRD and made a second edition. New game mechanics but they will feel really familiar and play similarly (though, the skill system is different/simple). I took the opportunity to revamp the art (all A.I. art now... I was reluctant, but since I don't ask for money for this product and don't pay for art for it, I figured why not?). It's now all Creative Commons and that feels right. I really hope everyone enjoys the new edition! But I have a favor to ask...

Since I don't pay anything for this product line, I would never recuperate the cost to my family if I paid for editing. So I'm hoping some of you are willing to help feed back my grammar, spelling, punctuation, and verbiage clarity to me for edits before I set up the POD. So... Help a fellow gamer out?
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BENJAMIN N February 16, 2023 6:22 pm UTC
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Awesome. I was hoping that this would become available as a POD book. I will look forward to see if I can spot any issues for this. Thanks.
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Timothy W February 17, 2023 3:27 am UTC
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What is the best way to submit editing comments?
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William L February 17, 2023 4:10 am UTC
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thank you! I know there are some, I've caught a few tonight while having wifey make a character
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William L February 17, 2023 4:15 am UTC
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you can email me at wlogan[at]dwdstudios[dot]com, that's the simplest way. If you follow me on twitter or subscribe to my discord you can just DM me there, or in a private chat on mewe. I don't use facebook enough though... really need to get more active there.
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Timothy W February 17, 2023 4:27 am UTC
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Email works for me. Ill send you what i find.
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Brad E February 16, 2023 2:14 pm UTC
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POD anytime soon?
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damian H January 07, 2022 3:33 am UTC
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Hi Bill,
I have completed (at least a solid build - improvements will follow) the first part of the Fantasy Grounds conversion of this product. I have a very functional Character Sheet, Combat Tracker and NPC sheets. Most things are drag and drop or double click to use. Combat Resolution works, ammo is tracked, reloading and medic kits are supported.
I have built a theme based on your RED/White/Black rulebook and graphics.
I have converted chapters 1-4 as Players Handbook and later i will do the Admin Guide and Adventure.
Thank you for you kind permission to allow me to share the rulebook content.
You can find it here: https://www.fantasygrounds.com/forums/showthread.php?72012-White-Lies-Free-Espionage-Ruleset-for-Fantasy-Grounds
regards
Damian
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damian H December 27, 2021 3:13 am UTC
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Hi guys. Am busy coding this up to play on Fantasy Grounds. I have a question regarding Areas of Training. This Roll with Advantage mechanic - does it stack with the attribute or its a roll on that AoT only? Eg if my AoT was Stealth and I had 14 Dex would I roll 2d6 (keep highest) and add 1? Would AoT be a standalone roll? Eg Im going to use the shadows to cross the courtyard undetected. I roll Stealth (2d6 ignoring Dex)?
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William L December 27, 2021 2:09 pm UTC
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You got it right. All "action checks" work that way. Roll 1d6 and if you roll 4+ you succeed... though the Admin can assign different target numbers based on the situation, even above 6+ for epic things. You add any attribute bonus and the bonus from any relevant skill the Admin approves, making the 4+ really easy for mundane uses of the task if agents have a few plusses.

The optional but usually used by most players "Supplemental Training" rule, which allows for more diversity among agents of the same class, allows you to use that "advantage" mechanic of rolling two d6's and selecting the best one to use for your roll, before adding any bonuses.
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Liam W January 06, 2021 7:23 pm UTC
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I'm completely unfamiliar with both White Lies and with Covert Ops, and with the underlying rules systems both (I am assuming?) are based on. But I'm looking for a modern spy RPG, and both have been recommended to me.
Can someone give me a summary as to the differences between Covert Ops and White Lies? Why might I select one over the other? (Being a pretty poor person who can't fork over the money to get both and see for myself.)
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Matt M January 06, 2021 10:33 pm UTC
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The two systems are rather different. Covert Ops uses a d% system—roll equal to or under skill value—kind of like Call of Cthulhu/Basic Roleplaying. White Lies is based on the rules for Swords & Wizardry WhiteBox (which is, in turn, based on the original D&D from 1974). Combat in White Lies is handled using a d20 for combat and a d6 for skills, both requiring rolls equal to or above a target number.

As for which one to get, I can only say that you should go with whichever system sounds preferable to you. I personally like White Lies more because I'm not a huge fan of percentile systems, but that's entirely subjective.
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Daniel D September 29, 2019 2:45 pm UTC
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I know this is a long time late but I bought a PDF copy of this back in the day. I don’t think I ever got a discount code for a print copy. I wanted a physical copy for my players when we start next month. BTW, this is my favorite espionage game thus far.
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William L September 29, 2019 7:39 pm UTC
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Hi Daniel. Send me an email at wlogan[at]dwdstudios[dot]com and we can help ya out
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Marvin B July 24, 2017 3:44 pm UTC
Looks like an interesting book, and I like the fact that it's based on my S&W WhiteBox rules, but it was kind of a bummer to see Matt's name there in the credits instead of mine. Matt did the S&W "Complete" rules, but the WB set was my creation.
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Matt M July 24, 2017 5:11 pm UTC
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It appears the only place you are credited in White Lies and various other White Box-derived games is in the license info in the very back of the books. Of the other derivates I have, that also seems to be the case with White Star, WWII: Operation White Box, and Ruins & Ronin. (White Box: Fantastic Medieval Adventure Game and The Hero's Journey are both properly credited.) I don't think you'd be out of line in contacting the publishers directly about this issue.
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Bill L May 18, 2018 7:37 pm UTC
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I'm so sorry! Please contact me via email and I can see what I can do to get your name in the credits properly. I apologize! I followed the guidelines from other white box implementations, and didn't realize I was carrying on an error.
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Pete S December 14, 2018 9:02 pm UTC
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Well, heck I'm with Bill here. Marvin, if you could email me at smallnichegames -at- gmail -dot- com I can properly update the credit info in OWB and get you some comp copies. I apologize for the error.
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BENJAMIN N March 19, 2016 5:37 pm UTC
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Sophia B gives a great and comprehensive review of White Lies.
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William L November 16, 2015 5:36 pm UTC
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Now that the POD is available, we'll be sending coupon discount codes via email to those who purchased the PDF for a discount on the POD to eliminate any DwD Studios profit. It will be sent later this week, as soon as the workflow here at this site allows us to generate the coupon.
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Pierre S November 17, 2015 6:17 am UTC
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Excellent!
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David O November 22, 2015 4:34 am UTC
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Arrgh... I Can't figure out how to change my settings so I get emails from RPGNow!
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William L November 23, 2015 9:34 pm UTC
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David - if you didn't get it, your mission (if you choose to accept it) is to send me an email with your customer ID and I'll reply with your coupon code :-)
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Jose F December 01, 2015 4:19 am UTC
I don't see a button for POD, just pdf. When will that be available?
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William L December 03, 2015 7:06 pm UTC
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It was available but the first group of customers contacted me and OBS claiming that the cover came out orange or brown rather than blood red like my proof looked. I modified color information in the PDF and re-uploaded and am once again waiting on OBS workflow to approve the new file and for me to order a proof. I'm sorry for the delay. I don't know why my proof looked spot-on and the customer purchases differed, but they claimed it was because of my files so yeah.
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Jose F December 09, 2015 4:58 pm UTC
Ok, thanks. I will grab it when it's available.
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