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Thirty by John Wick Pay What You Want
Publisher: John Wick Presents
by Phillip M. [Verified Purchaser] Date Added: 04/30/2005 00:00:00

I'm perplexed. Thirty sounds like a great game. And it probably is. It's just that I can't figure out why it is so badly laid out.

OK, I can live with the fact that the US insists on not using metric siced paper. It's a nuisance, but that isn't the problem. Thirty is intended to print landscape on US 8.5 x 11" paper. That is, two pages to a sheet.

Which means, you would think, that it would be designed so that the pages would print such that when photocopied back to back (for the majority of us who don't have a duplexing printer), would be in numerical order.

You'd be wrong.

The so-called "layout" is senseless ... it simply puts two pages on the one landscape page ... but in simple numerical order rather than in a way that would allow you to print them out back to back.

As it is, Sheet #1 will print with Pages #1 and #2 on it. Sheet #2 will print with Pages #3 and #4 on it. Printing them back to back will give you this order, when folded ... #2-#3, #4-#1.

It should, of course, print #1-#2, #3-#4.

Which means that you will have to print all the pages as single sheets, go to your quick print store and have them cut the pile in two, and only then will you be able to re-order them correctly so that the thing can be printed back to back properly.

This is such a basic layout error one wonders about the care taken (have they sent the wrong file to RPGNow? or do they simply not have a clue how layout programs work?) in preparing this product.

Pathetic.<br><br><b>LIKED</b>: Background seems OK. Game system is simplistic and limited in expandability ... I can't see this being the basis for an extended campaign, which is what the publisher's blurb implies it would be good for, but that's a first impression.<br><br><b>DISLIKED</b>: The amateurish layout for the specific reasons mentioned.

As it stands its only 72 8.5 x 11 pages, rather than 144 5.5 x 8.5 pages.<br><br><b>QUALITY</b>: Disappointing<br><br><b>VALUE</b>: Disappointed<br>

[2 of 5 Stars!]
Creator Reply:

We had two choices when laying out the book.

The first choice was to make it easy to read on the screen. The second choice was to make it easy to print out and bind at a printing station.

If we chose the first method, we'd get the response you gave above. If we chose the second method, you wouldn't be able to easily read the game from your screen.

We chose the second method, which causes an understandable response from folks who want to print the book out and take it to the print shop.

I'm sorry we didn't make the choice you wanted.

Take care,

John W.
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