Advanced Search >

ICONS: The Brothers of Thunder
Quick Preview
Full‑size Preview

ICONS: The Brothers of Thunder

Suggested Price $5.00

Fight Nazis and Support a Good Cause!

The Brothers of Thunder are a modern neo-Nazi group bringing their particular brand of hatred and fascism to America through any means necessary, aided by the super-powered twins Donner and Blitz and backed up by a legion of Shock Troopers.

This special product for Icons Superpowered Roleplaying is a fundraiser for the Sothern Poverty Law Center, a premier nonprofit legal advocacy and civil rights group that has worked tirelessly against hate-groups for over 45 years. All profits from the sale of this product will be donated to the SPLC. We recommend and ask for a $5 donation but the product is pay-what-you-want and any amount is gratefully accepted, especially if you feel moved to donate more!

The Brothers of Thunder includes background on the neo-Nazi organization, Icons stats for their Shock Troopers and two super-powered villains, Donner and Blitz, along with adventure ideas and additional villain concepts for use with the group.

 Customers who bought this title also purchased
Reviews (0)
Discussions (3)
Customer avatar
Brandon B August 14, 2017 12:24 am UTC
I am glad that I bought this, and doubly glad that the purchase supports a group doing good work fighting hate.
Customer avatar
Pierre S January 25, 2017 12:56 am UTC
It now seems the SPLC is not only condemning liberal reformers of Islam, but defending someone IN FAVOUR of Sharia law!
Customer avatar
Pierre S December 05, 2016 4:20 am UTC
Well, unfortunately, you did not vet groups correctly.

They made a negative remark in Newsweek about Dungeons & Dragons in 1999, apparently using D&D as a metaphor for what was bad about the White supremacist groups they were talking about.

From NEWSWEEK, March 8, 1999, "Evil to the End":

"Watchdog groups say he's both puerile and dangerous. 'He does command some fairly fanatical loyalty,' says Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center.
'In some ways, it's like Dungeons and Dragons. But he has the potential to be a real leader...' "

Why don't you bundle a donation to Bothered About Dungeons & Dragons while you're at it?
Customer avatar
Stephen K December 11, 2016 5:17 pm UTC
We clearly disagree about the tone of the comment in the Newsweek article (available in full on the Escapist website, for those interested). Mr. Potok seems to be saying, about a young neo-Nazi with a huge online following, "on the one hand this is like a fantasy role-playing game for him, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't be taken seriously as a concern." There is no admonishment of D&D or roleplaying beyond using it as an example of a "fantasy game". Mr. Potok might have as easily said "In some ways, it's like Fantasy Football" to make the same point.
Customer avatar
Jeffrey G December 16, 2016 7:20 pm UTC
You are misquoting the article. It does not say it is like a 'fantasy role-playing game'. It also does not say 'but that doesn't mean he shouldn't be taken seriously as a concern'.

Following is the excerpt you misquoted, directly from the Newsweek archives: "He does command some fairly fanatical loyalty," says Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center. "In some ways, it's like 'Dungeons and Dragons.' But he has the potential to become a real leader."
Customer avatar
Pierre S December 19, 2016 9:38 pm UTC
That is EXACTLY what I quoted above.

The SPLC also published an article quoting a Swedish professor, Mattias Gardell, linking D&D to paganism to White supremacists.

Strike Two?

Customer avatar
Jeffrey G December 22, 2016 4:41 pm UTC
Pierre, I wasn't commenting on your post, but on the publisher's post. He is playing fast and loose with the truth and altering the statement made by Potok to water it down. This is unconscionable for someone who publishes the written word to alter another persons words. If someone else took this product: ICONS:The Brothers of Thunder and rewrote parts of it and then quoted the rewrite, he would be upset.
Customer avatar
Pierre S December 22, 2016 5:03 pm UTC
Oh, okay. I quoted the original NEWSWEEK article exactly myself.

There is another product which included an SPLC charity bundle of many products, but it has been abruptly removed recently. It may not have been removed by DriveThru but by the publisher themselves, I'll have to ask DriveThru what happened there exactly, but since the product was removed the publisher escapes me and I have no record of what I was recently browsing on DriveThru a few days ago.

The publisher here, Ad Infinitum Adventures, is minimizing the SPLC quote in Newsweek, and there is a SECOND mention of D&D in one of the SPLC's own publications that is iffy and doesn't look favourable to me. Two strikes by the SPLC.

Now gamers may VARY in their impressions of these incidents, and Ad Infinitum and DriveThru MAY or may not be collecting a financial percentage, but they are unaware of the SPLC's history, and of what I unreservedly call the OPPRESSION of gamers especially D&D-players in the past....See more
Customer avatar
David G August 13, 2017 3:39 pm UTC
I saw this discussion when I went to buy and donate - I'm in anyway. SPLC had been fighting hate groups since longer than I've been alive; I'll forgive them a tone-deaf take on my hobby to keep them in business.
Customer avatar
Pierre S August 15, 2017 4:59 pm UTC
In the full details, it was a tone-deaf screeching against our hobby, and a doubling-down later.
Customer avatar
Pierre S August 15, 2017 5:00 pm UTC
...and nary a proper apology.
 Follow Your Favorites!
NotificationsSign in to get custom notifications of new products!

Product Information
Rule System(s)
File Size:
2.27 MB
Original electronic
Scanned image
These products were created by scanning an original printed edition. Most older books are in scanned image format because original digital layout files never existed or were no longer available from the publisher.

For PDF download editions, each page has been run through Optical Character Recognition (OCR) software to attempt to decipher the printed text. The result of this OCR process is placed invisibly behind the picture of each scanned page, to allow for text searching. However, any text in a given book set on a graphical background or in handwritten fonts would most likely not be picked up by the OCR software, and is therefore not searchable. Also, a few larger books may be resampled to fit into the system, and may not have this searchable text background.

For printed books, we have performed high-resolution scans of an original hardcopy of the book. We essentially digitally re-master the book. Unfortunately, the resulting quality of these books is not as high. It's the problem of making a copy of a copy. The text is fine for reading, but illustration work starts to run dark, pixellating and/or losing shades of grey. Moiré patterns may develop in photos. We mark clearly which print titles come from scanned image books so that you can make an informed purchase decision about the quality of what you will receive.
Original electronic format
These ebooks were created from the original electronic layout files, and therefore are fully text searchable. Also, their file size tends to be smaller than scanned image books. Most newer books are in the original electronic format. Both download and print editions of such books should be high quality.
File Last Updated:
November 26, 2016
This title was added to our catalog on November 30, 2016.